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perhaps hiking taxes on the rich is up with of them. but that does not mean we don't do a lick about our debt. not getting a handle on spending wasn't one of them. hearing only one side don't make you a journalist but doing so to ignore the other side makes you charyl top. charlatan. go after the goose, go after the gander. what is a gander? do you know? be fair, balanceed. both sides. have at it. >> dana: hello, i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, andrea tantaros. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: earlier today, president obama held the final press conference of his first term in the east room of the white house. the main attraction, our old friend the debt ceiling. they could default on the debt, unless the debt ceiling is raised. republicans want the president to cut spending before they i gree on a deal. but the president at no time seem eager for compromise. listen. >> we have to stop lurking from crisis to crisis to crisis. when there is a clear pass that requires disci
perhaps hiking taxes on the rich is up with of them. but that does not mean we don't do a lick about our debt. not getting a handle on spending wasn't one of them. hearing only one side don't make you a journalist but doing so to ignore the other side makes you charyl top. charlatan. go after the goose, go after the gander. what is a gander? do you know? be fair, balanceed. both sides. have at it. >> dana: hello, i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, andrea...
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it is the party of lower taxes. but there are a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, also paying lots of taxes relative to their income. and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change there are a lot of things that the american people are expecting and the republican party, as they get ready for the next election, really has to focus on some of these issues and not ignore them. everybody wants to talk about who is going to be the candidate you better think first about what's the party actually going to represent? if it's just gonna represent the far right-wing of the political spectrum, i think the party is in difficulty. i'm a moderate but i'm still a republican, that's how i was raised. until i voted for mr. obama twice i voted for seven straight republican presidents. >> a couple of other foreign policy matters, what should the force, u.s. force in afghanistan look like after next yea
it is the party of lower taxes. but there are a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, also paying lots of taxes relative to their income. and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change there are a lot of things that the american people are expecting and the republican party, as they get ready for the next election, really has to focus on some of these issues and not...
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they should not be able to raise taxes on our young people by putting congress. gerri: we should start calling and -- will calling him emperor obama. [laughter] >> i already do. gerri: and governor pataki. the animated series the simpson first premier to become an instant hit. the longest-running animated program running 24 seasons and 515 episodes. parsons and was the favorite character and the fans at its peak more than 1 million shares were sold bringing in $2 million of revenue. then "the simpsons" movie was released worldwide grossing 527 million by 2011 the show made it $1 billion of profits and has a star on the hollywood walk of fame. the first fox show to break into the top 10 ratings its premiere in 23 years ago today. new report showed 2013 did have a bigger housing recovery. stay with us. ♪ gerri: 2013 housing forecaster out and looking good. gerri: well this year is shaping up to be a great year for housing. forecasting prices to soar after 7.5% lesser. total home sales for the year marking the first increase since 2005. joining me now, vice chairm
they should not be able to raise taxes on our young people by putting congress. gerri: we should start calling and -- will calling him emperor obama. [laughter] >> i already do. gerri: and governor pataki. the animated series the simpson first premier to become an instant hit. the longest-running animated program running 24 seasons and 515 episodes. parsons and was the favorite character and the fans at its peak more than 1 million shares were sold bringing in $2 million of revenue. then...
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provided health insurance for children who did not have it, if they had helped set up an earned income tax credit to people who really needed it, those kinds of messages are ones that would appeal across race, region, and class. >> most people with political ambitions spent years trying to gain name recognition and a seat at the table of national politics. state senator, was not just another political figure. for months to the day after his first appearance with us in 2004 he had delivered what many described as one of the most electrifying keynote speeches in american history at the democratic national convention that year in boston. tavis: it is fascinating to me, coming into the national consciousness as we were talking the other day, we were talking and it was fascinating to sit here in this hall and watch you come into the process of -- consciousness of everyone across the country. >> the nice thing aside from having a wife who has a great sense of humor and does not take this stuff too seriously, to remind you of who you are, what i tried to do in that speech is give voice to what i
provided health insurance for children who did not have it, if they had helped set up an earned income tax credit to people who really needed it, those kinds of messages are ones that would appeal across race, region, and class. >> most people with political ambitions spent years trying to gain name recognition and a seat at the table of national politics. state senator, was not just another political figure. for months to the day after his first appearance with us in 2004 he had...
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this is the same crew that were saying they would never see taxes go up. we don't need every member in a republican party. we need 218 votes in the house for a reasonable package. and, you know, you have to watch for people to do, not just what they say. in the u.s. capitol, you can't walk in here with a grun. you can't walk in here with an assault weapon. over in the supreme court which says you have this unlimited right to have a gun, you can't walk in there with a gun. why should people walk sbhinto schools or movie theaters? that congress should provide for the american public. we know that guns can be dangerous in the wrong hands. that's why we have all of the rules and regulations and the security protections here. and we need to make sure that in our day care centers and our communities, we provide a better safety environment for our kirn. >> now, rooiyan, it seems like e republ lip cans, and i noticed the congressman said we don't need them all, some republicans do sound like they are more open to possible gun legislation more than some of the far
this is the same crew that were saying they would never see taxes go up. we don't need every member in a republican party. we need 218 votes in the house for a reasonable package. and, you know, you have to watch for people to do, not just what they say. in the u.s. capitol, you can't walk in here with a grun. you can't walk in here with an assault weapon. over in the supreme court which says you have this unlimited right to have a gun, you can't walk in there with a gun. why should people walk...
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doctor, give me the news, and a private efcacy group in support of the health care laws is now hosting a tax section with journalists on the best way to cover the president's health care law, offering what they're calling specialized education in health care reporting. charlie gasperino. >> i can't wait to sign up, dude. (laughter) >> isn't that weird and that anyone would sign up for, i'm sorry we got it wrong. >> any, any journalists that signs up for this should be thrown out of the industry immediately and taking-- i'm trying to take it seriously. it's so stupid it's unbelievable. i'm going to pass this to adam. >> adam, what-- (laughter) >> i'm going to try to explain. part of this they think there's bad report ong this because the reporters don't know what's in the law and they want toive them the straight skinny right from the folks who wrote it. what do you make of that? >> normally, on journalistic issues charlie and i are in lockstep. i disagree with you, if you're a reporter covering the intricacies of this extremely complicated legislation and regulation, you have nothing to lose
doctor, give me the news, and a private efcacy group in support of the health care laws is now hosting a tax section with journalists on the best way to cover the president's health care law, offering what they're calling specialized education in health care reporting. charlie gasperino. >> i can't wait to sign up, dude. (laughter) >> isn't that weird and that anyone would sign up for, i'm sorry we got it wrong. >> any, any journalists that signs up for this should be thrown...
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i think the main reason that they -- they don't want fica taxes to get so low that people get used to paying an amount that can't fund the social security trust fund. it's odd because of all the things we discussed in the fiscal cliff. >> yeah. >> most of them wish use that might affect economic growth in the future. this was a tax that, according to most people rating it, was worth about 0.8 points of economic growth, and they -- no one talked about it. >> few were talking about it. they were just trying to get to a deal as you're saying there now, dave. now we're seeing this real impact on the paychecks, might there be political backlash from voters for the president or for republicans on this. i almost said the beauty. kind of using the word ironically. the beauty of this issue like this where neither party advocated for it. neither party thinks they can be blamed. >> hurt by it. >> we know what republicans propose in various rounds of fiscal cliff negotiations, and they never proposed an extension to this. they could cynically say, look, and you hear some kind of republican pundit
i think the main reason that they -- they don't want fica taxes to get so low that people get used to paying an amount that can't fund the social security trust fund. it's odd because of all the things we discussed in the fiscal cliff. >> yeah. >> most of them wish use that might affect economic growth in the future. this was a tax that, according to most people rating it, was worth about 0.8 points of economic growth, and they -- no one talked about it. >> few were talking...
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. >> dana: can you write it off your taxes? >> kimberly: if you claim them as a depep dent. dent -- dependent. >> eric: i looked a at this and checked it out. >> kimberly: for research. >> eric: guy gives money toward the tuition. what does the girl do? >> dana: that was the seriously missing from the article. >> bob: what does the girl do? >> eric: i know what the girl does on the street but what does she do on the website? >> bob: keep it classy. probably sweeps the rooms out and does the dishes. >> eric: leave it there. directly ahead, glamour, glitz, controversy in tinsel township. yotown. stars gathered for the golden globes. we have our best moments. >> dana: next on "the five." ♪ ♪ back to new york and my colleagues with "the five." >> i really haven't been followen the controversy over "zero dark thirty" but when it comes to torture i trust a man who spent three years married to james cameron. >> kimberly: all right. well that was co-host amy having fun at james cameron's expense last night. "argo" and "girls" and "homeland" were the big winner bus the three-hour
. >> dana: can you write it off your taxes? >> kimberly: if you claim them as a depep dent. dent -- dependent. >> eric: i looked a at this and checked it out. >> kimberly: for research. >> eric: guy gives money toward the tuition. what does the girl do? >> dana: that was the seriously missing from the article. >> bob: what does the girl do? >> eric: i know what the girl does on the street but what does she do on the website? >> bob: keep it...
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the law was hotly debated, it is a law and they should not be able to raise the taxes particularly taxes on our young people simply by avoiding congress. gerri: george pataki, thank you for coming on the show tonight, thank you very much. >> thank you. gerri: it was this day in business back in 1990, fox's animated series "the simpsons" first premiered and became an instant hit. the half-hour sitcom islamist running american program so far running 24 seasons and 515 episodes. in the early 90s toward simpson was america's favorite character in fact introduced during its peak. for the 1 million shares sold on a given day bringing in $2 billion in revenue during the first 14 months. in 2007 the simpsons movie was released in theaters worldwide. it grossed $527 million sold $750 million in simpson's related merchandise. by 2011 the show made $1 billion in profits. this initiative 25 emmy nominations or awards and a star on the hollywood walk of fame. the first fox show to break into the top 10 in the ratings, "the simpsons" premiered o permit ons business day january 14, 23 years ago today.
the law was hotly debated, it is a law and they should not be able to raise the taxes particularly taxes on our young people simply by avoiding congress. gerri: george pataki, thank you for coming on the show tonight, thank you very much. >> thank you. gerri: it was this day in business back in 1990, fox's animated series "the simpsons" first premiered and became an instant hit. the half-hour sitcom islamist running american program so far running 24 seasons and 515 episodes. in...
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higher estate tax rate. but it could have been worse. >> i think that the wealthy got off pretty easily here. there's a modest tax increase for the very wealthiest in this society, a very tiny percentage. i, frankly, that there are more taxes coming and they're going to bite more deeply into the middle class. >> approximately two-thirds of american will pay more taxes. the tax bite for the middle class comes from the end of payroll tax cut, which wasn't renewed in the fiscal cliff deal. but whatever happened to comprehensive tax reform? >> the irs tax code is still a nightmare. it's too complex, too costly, and too unfair. >> reporter: both sides say they're open to simplifying the tax code. more than 70,000 pages in 2012. the u.s. government gives away more than $1 trillion a year in tax breaks, but republicans say reform isn't about squeezing more money out of taxpayers. >> i think tax reform is a good idea, but now that we have resolved the revenue issue, tax reform ought to be revenue neutral, as it was
higher estate tax rate. but it could have been worse. >> i think that the wealthy got off pretty easily here. there's a modest tax increase for the very wealthiest in this society, a very tiny percentage. i, frankly, that there are more taxes coming and they're going to bite more deeply into the middle class. >> approximately two-thirds of american will pay more taxes. the tax bite for the middle class comes from the end of payroll tax cut, which wasn't renewed in the fiscal cliff...
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sales tax, correct? >> well, it's not quite. progressive is important to me, i don't want people to pay taxes if they have $20,000 a year worth of income. but at 30,000, i might like for people to pay $1. just $1. so they have a legitimate claim for saying, i'm part of the society, and i don't pay a lot, but i do pay something. everybody participates, and there's no game playing, it's a very efficient way to raise revenue. right now, it costs us $431 billion a year to administer the tax system we have, and the tax gap, the money we're not collecting that's theoretically owed is $400 billion a year. we could do better than that, we can think better than that. and the president needs to lay that out for us. >> even if we get more growth, we're still finding it difficult to get unemployment down. elaine cho served as george w. bush's secretary of labor. what would you do to create more jobs in america? >> i think you have to keep the tax rate low, they're a direct burden on the resources of the employer. th
sales tax, correct? >> well, it's not quite. progressive is important to me, i don't want people to pay taxes if they have $20,000 a year worth of income. but at 30,000, i might like for people to pay $1. just $1. so they have a legitimate claim for saying, i'm part of the society, and i don't pay a lot, but i do pay something. everybody participates, and there's no game playing, it's a very efficient way to raise revenue. right now, it costs us $431 billion a year to administer the tax...
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they tax a lot. when you thought the tax by the mile thing was in park, a government study proves washington is revving to go. so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen anjeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they' gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >> neil: i think this is what they call a hybrid to hell. you bought the gas saver to ease your pai
they tax a lot. when you thought the tax by the mile thing was in park, a government study proves washington is revving to go. so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen anjeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they' gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of...
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he's right on the tax stuff. on the other stuff it'd be pretty hard for him to make an argument that the american he people voted for gun control or unconditional increases in borrowing. >> megyn: back on the issue of gun control to leave it at this, vice-president biden is going to give recommendations we understand tomorrow to the president, as he's been known to do, put his foot in his mouth a bit on friday when he said the following: . >> we know there's, there's no silver bullet and there's no, as one of my friends said, no seat belt to put on to assure you will not be in this circumstance again. i'm going to be submitting to the president i think a proposal as to how to proceed. i'm shooting for tuesday, hope i can get it done by then. >> megyn: and the hits on the tape how it came to us. the vice-president talking the gun proposal, no silver bullet, but shooting for tuesday, the recommendations. thoughts on that, chris? >> we're grateful to vice-president biden, we're grateful to vice-president biden, all
he's right on the tax stuff. on the other stuff it'd be pretty hard for him to make an argument that the american he people voted for gun control or unconditional increases in borrowing. >> megyn: back on the issue of gun control to leave it at this, vice-president biden is going to give recommendations we understand tomorrow to the president, as he's been known to do, put his foot in his mouth a bit on friday when he said the following: . >> we know there's, there's no silver...
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people that pay taxes in this beautiful nation. we have people coming in -- and i will use my own place of birth, cuba. >> i will stop you there. two issues that you put on the table that the present will be facing, immigration, the debt and deficit. >> that is absolutely true, these will be two big issues. on the gun-control issue, but no one is talking about taking everyone's guns away. they are talking about sensible, common-sense measures to prevent some of the tragic incidents we have seen recently, in newtown, aurora, colorado. i think there will be time to get into the thick of these issues after tomorrow, but tomorrow will be a chance for the president, really, to bring the country together and say we need to reach common ground on some of the major problem we face. >> you were inside the bush white house. the president put on the table two big domestic agenda items, immigration reform, primarily because his own party said no, and social security reform. >>what advice would you give president obama, based on the lessons tha
people that pay taxes in this beautiful nation. we have people coming in -- and i will use my own place of birth, cuba. >> i will stop you there. two issues that you put on the table that the present will be facing, immigration, the debt and deficit. >> that is absolutely true, these will be two big issues. on the gun-control issue, but no one is talking about taking everyone's guns away. they are talking about sensible, common-sense measures to prevent some of the tragic incidents...
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b, they pay their back taxes. and c, they pay a small penalty for having broken the law in the first place. >> but let me push you on that because if you don't provide a path to citizenship -- >> i don't think you have to say that they can become citizens. this -- that part of my four-point program's going to be a attacked voluntary sis rously by people on the republican side. but it's not amnesty. they have a path to citizenship. they do the way every other immigrant does to become an american citizen. >> what would you say to the republicans who will say, look, they should be deported? >> yes. >> they should never have a path -- >> and you think what you say to them, look what your position got us in this last election. we need to pay attention to demographics. okay? i said we need to be the party of hope and opportunity. not the party of anger and resentment. >> illegal immigration is just one problem with our current system says michael bloomberg, the mayor of new york city and one of america's most successful
b, they pay their back taxes. and c, they pay a small penalty for having broken the law in the first place. >> but let me push you on that because if you don't provide a path to citizenship -- >> i don't think you have to say that they can become citizens. this -- that part of my four-point program's going to be a attacked voluntary sis rously by people on the republican side. but it's not amnesty. they have a path to citizenship. they do the way every other immigrant does to become...
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, that we've got to fight to cut corporate tax rates, we've got to inform entitlements, we've got to do these things i think conservatives are best suited to do, instead of being engaged on fights on the periphery. we've got to narrow our focus and get back to first principles, and if we don't do that, the republican party's going to be in the minority for a very long time. >> joe scarborough from "morning joe," i like "afternoon joe" too. thank you very much. >> i like your time slot a lot better than ours, actually. 1:00's okay. >> try it some time, sleep in a bit. >> i'd like to. >>> coming up next, the gun lobby reacts to the president's proposals and that nra ad. >>> plus, biden, bloomberg, and gabby giffords. there's a trio inside "time's" special edition on gun control. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. i'm up next, but now i'm singing the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. ♪ oh what a relief it is! maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust.
, that we've got to fight to cut corporate tax rates, we've got to inform entitlements, we've got to do these things i think conservatives are best suited to do, instead of being engaged on fights on the periphery. we've got to narrow our focus and get back to first principles, and if we don't do that, the republican party's going to be in the minority for a very long time. >> joe scarborough from "morning joe," i like "afternoon joe" too. thank you very much. >>...
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i've also said that we need more revenue through tax reform, by closing loopholes in our tax code for the wealthiest americans. if we combine a balanced package of savings from spending on health care and revenues from closing loopholes, we can solve the deficit issue without sacrificing our investments in things like education that are going to help us grow. turns out the american people agree with me. they listened to an entire year's debate over this issue and they made a clear decision about the approach they prefer. they don't think it's fair, for example, to ask a senior to pay more for his or her health care or a scientist to shut down life-saving research so that a multimillionaire investor can pay less in tax rates than a secretary. they don't think it's smart to protect endless corporate loopholes and tax breaks for the wealthiest americans rather than rebuild our roads and schools and invest in our worker's skills or help manufacturers bring jobs back to america. so they want us to get our books in order in a balanced way, where everybody pulls their weight, everyone does t
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as for the bill itself, the pathway to citizenship would come with a payment of fines and back taxes. the bill would also include a nationwide legal verification system for all newly hired workers. additional visas for highly skilled immigrants and a guest worker program. top senate democrat harry reid sounded optimistic about its passage. >> tentatively on a path to citizenship which has been a stumbling block. we need to promote bipartisan bills quicker than you think. >> you are confident this will amount to something substantial? >> we'll do something significant. >> then again, there's always the lower chamber. according to texas congressman lamar smith, any bill with a pathway to citizenship will have a hard time passing. phil, the georgia republican who weighed in so very eloquently on todd aken's rape comments this weekend, told the "new york times" he remains opposed to amnesty of any kind. joining us now is telemundo jose diaz. it is always a good day when you are on this program, my friend. great to see you. >> thank you so much. thank you so much. >> jose, let me ask you -
as for the bill itself, the pathway to citizenship would come with a payment of fines and back taxes. the bill would also include a nationwide legal verification system for all newly hired workers. additional visas for highly skilled immigrants and a guest worker program. top senate democrat harry reid sounded optimistic about its passage. >> tentatively on a path to citizenship which has been a stumbling block. we need to promote bipartisan bills quicker than you think. >> you are...
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that is a $2,000 tax-deductible charitable contribution. if you could possibly afford that, it makes such a difference. you do not need to know when you have to do this. some people pledged three years ago and have not come to new york until now. does not matter. it does not expire. we do not want to live tv to expire. or you can say i am coming to town at the end of january, that is fine. we will work it out. you do not need to know when you will come. you just say i want dinner and a show. then my colleague here at the show will give you a call. you will become a friend of brenda fast, e-mail her back and forth, and that is how it goes. i cannot agree view -- i cannot wait to greet you. if you can possibly afford this, it would make a huge difference to keep independent media alive for everyone. your call makes a difference, you make it possible for live tv to happen. i really encourage you to tune in, check out the details on our website, democracynow.org, for our inauguration special, 8:00 until 1:00 on martin luther king. from tuesday
that is a $2,000 tax-deductible charitable contribution. if you could possibly afford that, it makes such a difference. you do not need to know when you have to do this. some people pledged three years ago and have not come to new york until now. does not matter. it does not expire. we do not want to live tv to expire. or you can say i am coming to town at the end of january, that is fine. we will work it out. you do not need to know when you will come. you just say i want dinner and a show....
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tax code. >> i do. >> why? >> because it's inefficient, it's ineffective, and its fundamentally unfair. so i believe this -- revenue systems should be used to raise money. it shouldn't be organized to distribute benefits. >> so no tax deductions. >> no deductions, no credits, no nothing. it's to raise revenue. and ideally we should do it with a progressive value-added tax. that means -- >> that's a national sales tax, correct? >> well, it's not quite because progressive is important to me. i don't want people to pay taxes if they have $20,000 a year worth of income, but at $30,000, i'd like people to pay 1 dollar, just $1.00 so they have a legitimate claim for saying i'm part of the society and i don't pay a lot but i pay something. everybody participates. there's no game playing. it's a very efficient way to pay taxes. right now it costs over $31 million a year to administer it. the tax gap that we theoretically owe is $41 billion a year. we can do better than that. we can think better than that. and the presi
tax code. >> i do. >> why? >> because it's inefficient, it's ineffective, and its fundamentally unfair. so i believe this -- revenue systems should be used to raise money. it shouldn't be organized to distribute benefits. >> so no tax deductions. >> no deductions, no credits, no nothing. it's to raise revenue. and ideally we should do it with a progressive value-added tax. that means -- >> that's a national sales tax, correct? >> well, it's not quite...
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republicans are over the tax fight. they figure they've done taxes. they're not going to do that, and that's a part of the president's calculation. if he can't get that, what does he do on the spending side? not much. >> thanks very much to all of you. that's interesting. it does seem to many that tax debate is sort of done, republican or democrat. >> right. >> we had that fight, here we are. >> but the one thing the president does get is to choose what the country focuses on. he doesn't necessarily get to choose the results. he gets to choose what the country focuses on so we'll see. this is a big test for him to pick his priorities. >> that's why tomorrow becomes crucial. we'll learn a lot tomorrow. >> coming up, a rare look at a room inside the nation's capitol, a room that only a few people have ever seen. wow. would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutr
republicans are over the tax fight. they figure they've done taxes. they're not going to do that, and that's a part of the president's calculation. if he can't get that, what does he do on the spending side? not much. >> thanks very much to all of you. that's interesting. it does seem to many that tax debate is sort of done, republican or democrat. >> right. >> we had that fight, here we are. >> but the one thing the president does get is to choose what the country...
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on the one side republicans are saying taxes cannot be considered a part of the equation, and we need to cut spending dollar for dollar for any debt ceiling increase. >> right. the president is saying revenues must be part of an equation, and he does not want to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. so what do they say, skip congress all together because they can't get it done. >> manu raju of politico and marilyn of "roll call," thank you both very much. president obama may have a new immigration plan in the works and what does that mean for his second agenda? and you may have more cash to put in the bank. after the break we'll examine the reason why. you're watching the place for politics. reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it.
on the one side republicans are saying taxes cannot be considered a part of the equation, and we need to cut spending dollar for dollar for any debt ceiling increase. >> right. the president is saying revenues must be part of an equation, and he does not want to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. so what do they say, skip congress all together because they can't get it done. >> manu raju of politico and marilyn of "roll call," thank you both very much. president...
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tells him how much he's allowed to collect in taxes. he says there's a difference there. i have to borrow it. no, you can't borrow that. the whole debt ceiling thing itself is a crazy thing. it forces the president to do something illegal, either to defy congress on what it told him to spend or defy congress and borrow when it told him not to. >> krugman was one of the leading proponents of the trillion dollar coin idea which involved minting a platinum coin which would be deposited at the federal reserve allowing the government to pay off bills should congress fail to act. over the weekend the treasury d department ruled out the idea. >>> before we go to break. shoot me an e-mail at waytooearly@msnbc and let me know why you're awake. you can also tweet me. >>> still ahead on "way too early," a wild weekend for the nfl as the atlanta fallons break their playoff slump in dramatic fashion. i'll bring you all the weekend highlights next in sports, if i make it. >>> and it was a big night for fans of "homeland" and a little-known show called "game change." we'll also get a ch
tells him how much he's allowed to collect in taxes. he says there's a difference there. i have to borrow it. no, you can't borrow that. the whole debt ceiling thing itself is a crazy thing. it forces the president to do something illegal, either to defy congress on what it told him to spend or defy congress and borrow when it told him not to. >> krugman was one of the leading proponents of the trillion dollar coin idea which involved minting a platinum coin which would be deposited at...
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of course, the united states constitution gives the power to tax and spend to the congress, and the congress alone. our current deficit is the result of money congress has already borrowed. president obama explained to the american people today how republicans in congress are trying to avoid doing their actual jobs. >> these are bills that have already been racked up. and we need to pay them. so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up. >> if the american people do not catch on to the severity of all of this, of defaulting on our debts, the country will be in a dire situation. president obama knows this. he believes it. he has proved it before. and he is not going to play games with economic stability. >> so we've got to pay our bills. and republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills, or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but th
of course, the united states constitution gives the power to tax and spend to the congress, and the congress alone. our current deficit is the result of money congress has already borrowed. president obama explained to the american people today how republicans in congress are trying to avoid doing their actual jobs. >> these are bills that have already been racked up. and we need to pay them. so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits,...
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a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, who are also paying lots of taxes relative to their income, and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change. there are a lot of things that the american penal are expecting, and the republican party as they get ready for the next election really has to focus on some of these issues and not ignore them. >> chris, what's sad to me about that is that by virtue of mentioning the phrase climate change, it's almost like colin powell has kicked himself out of the republican party. this party used to play ball on that issue. now they're denying the actual science behind it. they have swung so far right, and my question after all of this, after that interview which was incendiary and was very much a line in the sand for the gop -- >> it's history making. >> when will the republican party admit they have a problem? because every time something like this happens, there is a doubling down, there is a defense, there is an attack on th
a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, who are also paying lots of taxes relative to their income, and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change. there are a lot of things that the american penal are expecting, and the republican party as they get ready for the next election really has to focus on some of these issues and not ignore them. >> chris, what's sad...
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priorities in the order we're putting them, protecting the wealthy, protecting the lowest corporate tax rates since the 1970s and looking at deep cuts that are going to hurt these people. so i hope, and i think there is some sign today that the president is talking about really holding the line on that. >> well, i think the president is going to hold the line. he was pretty strong about that today. gop pollster frank luntz was asked on fox news the republican failure to win over americans with their rhetoric on spending. here it is. >> do you believe the error is smaller government, the adjustment should be more effective and efficient government. why are those words so important? >> because the american people don't care what the size of government. they do care what types of services government gives. and quite frankly, how much government takes. >> and also, whether the government pays its bills or not. but e.j., this is all in the arena of the republican mantra that they want to make sure that they drive home to the american people that government doesn't do anything well, that we m
priorities in the order we're putting them, protecting the wealthy, protecting the lowest corporate tax rates since the 1970s and looking at deep cuts that are going to hurt these people. so i hope, and i think there is some sign today that the president is talking about really holding the line on that. >> well, i think the president is going to hold the line. he was pretty strong about that today. gop pollster frank luntz was asked on fox news the republican failure to win over americans...
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. >> here is one that will make you ask where did my tax money go. the united nations development program is supposed to be the anti-poverty agency. according to the new study the agency is not doing much to reduce poverty at all and the scathing report showing agency spent 8.5 billion on anti-poverty activities from 2004 to 2011. and since u.s. pays for about a quarter of the u.n.'s total budget. where is all of this money going? former u.n. ambassador john bolton joins us, good evening, sir. >> good evening. >> greta: a lot of money to spend on poverty, we would hope we're ahead of the game on poverty? >> why are you surprised? this is the united nations at work. part of the problem with a lot of u.n. programs you can measure the input, billions spent. you can't measure the output. i think this report, the executive summary we have. when the whole thing comes out it will be interesting to read because it's an admission that they don't really know what effect their activities have. >> greta: i'm so curious, why the commission a study of themselves i
. >> here is one that will make you ask where did my tax money go. the united nations development program is supposed to be the anti-poverty agency. according to the new study the agency is not doing much to reduce poverty at all and the scathing report showing agency spent 8.5 billion on anti-poverty activities from 2004 to 2011. and since u.s. pays for about a quarter of the u.n.'s total budget. where is all of this money going? former u.n. ambassador john bolton joins us, good evening,...
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the republicans wouldn't vote for tax increases for millionaires -- for tax increases for millionaires. you could do it on guns, you could do it on immigration. you have a lot of tough issues s and you force the republicans to make ugly votes and that's their strategy. that's their strategy to take control of the house. >> the premise of that scares enough republicans into enough action to get mobilized. >> look at what just happened. the republicans in the last day or so, punted on the debt ceiling. i think that was smart. but the reason they did it was they thought a trap had been set and if they didn't, they would look bad. i think that's what would have happened. but that's an idea what have chris is talking about. >> chris, brit, thank you. >> you have a leak in your roof, you if i can it, right? >> but what happens when the capitol building this has a lot of leaks? we'll show you, after the break. mine was earned in djibouti, africa, 2004. the battle of bataan, 1942. [ all ] fort benning, georgia, in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generatio
the republicans wouldn't vote for tax increases for millionaires -- for tax increases for millionaires. you could do it on guns, you could do it on immigration. you have a lot of tough issues s and you force the republicans to make ugly votes and that's their strategy. that's their strategy to take control of the house. >> the premise of that scares enough republicans into enough action to get mobilized. >> look at what just happened. the republicans in the last day or so, punted on...
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as i said the other night, if only the corporations set corporate tax law, it would be pretty low. if only the gun guys set gun laws, there aren't going to be any gun laws. the people who don't own guns or own guns casually will have to do something. >> that's exactly right. that's what the president has taken away from the lessons of newtown. listening to the heartbeat of the people on this right now. you can see it in the polls. you hear it in the language, and right now the gop's message is out of sync with that heartbeat, and i think there are ways and opportunities for them to get back in sync to lay out that concern about the second amendment and why the protection is important, but put it out there in the context of those kids who were killed because that's what people see most of all. >> let's talk about the president's strength now. bob, this monday and -- this tuesday he will have taken the oath a second time. the american people have doubled down on this president, a majority of the american people have voted for this guy. two majority votes. he will have that in his poc
as i said the other night, if only the corporations set corporate tax law, it would be pretty low. if only the gun guys set gun laws, there aren't going to be any gun laws. the people who don't own guns or own guns casually will have to do something. >> that's exactly right. that's what the president has taken away from the lessons of newtown. listening to the heartbeat of the people on this right now. you can see it in the polls. you hear it in the language, and right now the gop's...
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we are passed the point where we have to work so hard to pay $3 for a poll tax receipt. but it sends a message to america that even though we have moved forward, be aware and guard your rights because there are different methods of disenfranchisement. >> well, i think when you walk on that stage and that platform, it symbolizes and personifies all of that. myrlie, congratulations on your honor. thank you for being you. half a century later, looking great and standing up for the dream of medgar evers. >> and thank you for you. >> we'll be right back. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. wears off. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eucerinus.com.
we are passed the point where we have to work so hard to pay $3 for a poll tax receipt. but it sends a message to america that even though we have moved forward, be aware and guard your rights because there are different methods of disenfranchisement. >> well, i think when you walk on that stage and that platform, it symbolizes and personifies all of that. myrlie, congratulations on your honor. thank you for being you. half a century later, looking great and standing up for the dream of...
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he did allude to rewriting the tax code. something that perhaps democrats and republicans have been talking about doing. two very different approaches on how to do that. there is a sense of togetherness, neil, that tends to go away when you get back into governing. now, that continues to roll into governing the country. it is not easy. neil: it is very clear that this president has the support of the american people, although, his popularity is not as high as many who come into their second term. george bush had a higher approval rating. certainly, dwight eisenhower did. richard nixon did. we are reminded, it is rare that it goes up markedly from there. it usually stays or goes down. what do you hear he will do to keep that capital going? >> back capital, as you say, tends to go, depending on how the country goes. if the economy is improving, the president will take a measure of credit for that. he has shown some willingness, at least, in some areas to compromise. the problem is much of the same themes you are still hearing
he did allude to rewriting the tax code. something that perhaps democrats and republicans have been talking about doing. two very different approaches on how to do that. there is a sense of togetherness, neil, that tends to go away when you get back into governing. now, that continues to roll into governing the country. it is not easy. neil: it is very clear that this president has the support of the american people, although, his popularity is not as high as many who come into their second...
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we go through the tax debate. we thought we got higher taxes on the rich and it was over, not so. senator schumer and fellow democrats are proposing yet higher taxes on the rich, more taxes on oil and gas companies and taxes on profits that american corporations makeover seas. so that is three big areas where taxes are going to go up. all of this we are told is going to be in the new budget which the senate has to pass in about a three-month period. so, here they come, higher taxes. martha: yeah. i mean, stuart, as you point out the argument that is being waged now about really tax rerecall follow was something that conservatives offered the first time around as a good way to sort of change the system and bring in more revenues at the same time. now it looks like democrats including nancy pelosi say, no way, there is more revenue can come from this wealthy group. one of them is high-profile golfer looking to evade all of this apparently. >> the news broke this morning. talking about phil mickelson. he is california-based and he has had it with taxes. he says he is going to take dr
we go through the tax debate. we thought we got higher taxes on the rich and it was over, not so. senator schumer and fellow democrats are proposing yet higher taxes on the rich, more taxes on oil and gas companies and taxes on profits that american corporations makeover seas. so that is three big areas where taxes are going to go up. all of this we are told is going to be in the new budget which the senate has to pass in about a three-month period. so, here they come, higher taxes. martha:...